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the u.s. respond? plus, fresh outrage over the nsa's surveillance programs after the white house releases secret court rulings. and president obama says he's on a personal mission to make college more affordable. we will tell you what he has planned. >>> welcome to "the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. growing here and abroad about america's hands-off approach to the middle east. as new evidence of chemical weapons used in syria surfaces and egypt moves closer to civil war. we a great to have you here. welcome back to the program. >> thank you for having me. >> good. let's look at syria first. a year ago, i think it was the president famously, president obama, fame famously said -- use of chemical weapons would be a red line that syria shouldn't cross and would have consequences. what is assad's calculation that he would cross, be willing to cross that red line? >> small-scale attacks and nothing happened. what happened recently was the sixth attack and -- each attack has been bigger than the previous one with the exception of one in the middle. so -- he has been testin
you next three. >> john: i'm john roberts in for chris wallace. new allegations rock the nsa. documents leaked why former nsa contractor edward snowden detail thousands of privacy violations by the agency after repeated denials from the white house. >> what you are not reading about is the government actually abusing these programs. >> john: we'll discuss with a key member of the homeland security committee and critic of the nsa kentucky senator rand paul. then, another week of chaos in egypt as the interim government's crackdown on supporters of ousted president mohammed morsi leaves hundreds of people dead. >> our traditional cooperation cannot continue as usual when civilians are being killed in the streets. thee'll discuss the deteriorating situation in the region and the u.s. response with republican congressman pete king of new york and democratic senator richard blumenthal of connecticut. plus, another delay for the president's healthcare law forces the obama administration to play defense. >> this is no longer a political debate. this is what we call the law. >> the p
nsa. >> documents leaked by former nsa contractor edward snowden detail thousands of privacy violations after repeated denials from the white house. >> what you are not reading rea about is the government gov actually abusing these programs. >> we'll discuss with a key member of the homeland security committee and critic of the nsa kentucky senator rand paul. >> and then another week of chaos in egypt as the interim government's crackdown on supporters of mohamed morsi leaves hundreds of people dead.. >> our pro decisional cooperation cannot continue as usual when civilians are being killed in the streets. >> we will discuss the deteriorating situation in the region and the u.s. response with republican congressman pete king from new york and richard bloom -- bloom nee -- bloomenthal. >> and forcing the obama administration to play defense. >> this is no longer aat w political debate. this is what we call the law. >> the president claims that this law is working the way it is supposed to. but clearly it is not. >> we will ask our sundayn: w panel about the political fallout a
senators from both parties grilled officials from the fbi and nsa about the lack of transparency around the nation's sprawling surveillance operation. signalling the defunding of the nsa's phone records. they will force the government to reveal how many americans have had their information reviewed by federal agents. this as president obama on the hill today, assured lawmakers he was hearing their concerns about the reach of the nsa and even agreed to meet with a number of them at the white house tomorrow. today meetings came just hours after the administration announced they would be declassifying the now infamous secret court order compelling verizon to hand over all their american customer's phone records in bulk. that was edward snowden's first revelation, the one that kicked this whole thing off. today we got his latest. the piece published by glenn greenwald, with documents provided by snowden, details another nsa surveillance program, a top secret national security agency program that allows analysts to search with no prior authorization through vast databases containing e-mails,
convicted. and nsa leaker edward snowden gets asylum. both are being celebrated in some circles, but are they really heroes? >>> welcome to "the journal editorial report." well, if you fund it, you're for it. that's the message this week from a group ofseative lawmakers to fellow republicans as they continue their push to make defunding obama care part of a deal to keep the government running past september. the plan, which could result in a government shutdown, is being met with resistance by some in the gop, with critics calling it political suicide. florida senator rubio had this message for the skeptical senators. >> if we pass this, you did not do everything you could. you paid for this. you doubled down on it. in ways that will have harm to our country. this is our last best chance. >> joining the panel this week, "wall street journal" columnist and deputy editor dan he ddinger. assistant editor james freeman. and washington columnist kim strasle. so, dan, this rubio strategy, what do you think of it? >> i think it's probably -- other than the fund-raising possibilities fo
the d.c. view on all of this. good to see you, always. >>> eric? >> new reaction to the nsa surveillance scandal this morning. what senator rand paul is now saying about the latest privacy bomb shell and what senator paul says needs to be done. >>> plus, this almost came out of nowhere. london police are announcing they've received new information about the death of princess diana. is it enough, though, for them to reopen the case? details ahead. [ male announcer ] frequent heartburn? the choice is yos. chalky... not chalky. temporary... 24 hour. lots of tablets... one pill. you decide. prevent acid with prevacid 24hr. it fills you with energy... and it gives you what you are looking for to live a more natural life. in a convennt two bar pack. this is nature valley. nature at its most delicious. this is nature valley. ♪ you're not made of money, so don't overpay for at insurance. geico, you're not made of money, see how much you could save. okab. a, or b? or a. that's a good choice. let me show you some faucets to go along with that. with the latest styles and aranteed low prices, you
. >>> i'm john roberts in for chris wallace. new allegations rock the nsa. documents leeng s beaked leakedd thousands of violations. >> what you are not reading about is the government actually abusing these programs. >> we'll discuss with the key member of the homeland security committee and critic of the nda, kentucky senator, rand paul. >>> crack down on supporters of leader leaves hundreds of people dead. >> we'll discuss the situation in the region and the us response with republican congressman of new york and senator rumenthal of connecticut. >>> the obama is forced to play defense. >> this is no longer a political debate. this is what we call the law. >> the president claims that this law is working the way it is supposed to. but clearly it is not. >> we'll ask our sunday panel about the political hall out. all right here on fox news sunday. >> more tough questions for the nsa after the washington post reported this week that the agency violated policy rules. >> nation's most secretive spy agency intercepted e-mails and calls during that time and did not report the unauthori
returning from his vacation overnight. and he is already on the defense over the latest details in the nsa spying scandal. >> reporter: good morning. the white house says the violation don't reflect any willful law breaking. the detail report white house aides say nsa is aggressively monitoring itself. more documents leaked about the nsa the national secure agency listening in on people's phone calls or reading their emails and failing to report their violations to the frn isa court. some members of congress find the latest leak about the nsa more troubling. senator rand paul wants to take the scandal to the highest court in the land. >> the only way to fine justice you have to hear both side. there needs to be a discussion from people who are a little bit more skeptical of the nsa in an open court, i think, before the supreme court on this program. >> reporter: the latest information comes from documents that nsa leaker edward snowden released. they detail thousands of privacy violations made by nsa. president obama denies the government is abusing the programs. congressman pete king who
to embassies or consulates. >> very frightening, jon, and thank you to you. >>> and while the nsa helped uncover this latest terror threat, there are also new revelations this morning in the controversy over its secret surveillance programs. glenn greenwald from "the guardian" newspaper has been at the center of all this breaking the story with his interview with edward snowden, and he joins us now from brazil. good morning, glenn. you're reporting there are new frustrations, frustrations in congress about being thwarted in attempts to exercise oversight. what does that mean, and who is stopping them? >> members of congress, members from both political parties actually came to us and showed us all kinds of letters and e-mails that they've been exchanging in which they're trying to get the most basic information about what the nsa is doing and spying on american citizens and what the fisa court has been doing in terms of declaring some of this illegal, some of it legal. remember, we keep hearing that there's all kinds of robust oversight by congress and we need not worry and yet these mem
's rumors that there's more to come in these disclosures. whistle blowers have suggested the n.s.a. whistle blower that there's more that we don't know that we should though. will you or will some of your colleagues, are you willing to use the privilege that constitutional privilege that's outlined and used in the 1960 to see put that into the record so that we, the public can see that kind of thing? >> you're referring to the speech and debate in the constitution. we've already gone so far beyond that in what's already been disclosed. every time there's a new disclose that you are comes out, the people in charge, like general alexander are asked is there anything else. they always say no, and then there's something else. >> i got to ask one last question on this topic, before we go to the break. you know, you mentioned the fourth amendment. i know that you've got to include it in one of the bills, the provision sailing that you can't vital the fourth amendment, but they're clearly vitals it with this spying. i can't imagine how it would be a matter of dispute. it's the most plain reading a
with a former director of the cia and nsa general michael hayden, as well as nsa critic congressman justin amash of michigan. then washington keeps heading for a budget impasse and government shutdown. >> we've seen a certain faction of republicans in congress saying they wouldn't pay the very bills that congress racked up in the first place. >> you know, instead of working together, the president yesterday threatened to shut down the government. >> in an exclusive interview, we'll ask house majority leader eric cantor if they can make a deal before the deadline, all right now on "fox news sunday." hello again from fox news in washington. we begin with a terror threat that has prompted the state department to arab i global issl alert for americans, and close two dozen embassies and consulates across the muslim world. we're told the al-qaeda threat is specific, but the targets are not. chief washington correspondent james rosen has the latest. james? >> chris, good morning. president obama and his national security team approached this day, the president's 52nd birthday, not in a state of celebra
evening, brian. tonight the guardian published more classified information, claiming the nsa can read content of e-mail and online chats without court approval. the intelligence community is firing back saying the program known as x keystone is only use ed against foreign terror suspects and the nsa is doing its own disclosures. today, a brief new look inside the secrets of the nsa. the director of national intelligence released several documents to show fisa court oversight of the spy program that sweeps up americans' phone record data. and the government acknowledged using a wider net than previously known in what is called hop analysis. the nsa tracks a call made by a terror suspect, but can then track all the records linked to anyone the first suspect calls. and on to anyone each of those callers contact, and so on. senator dick durbin was clearly uneasy. >> when you look at the reach of this program, and it envelops a substantial number of americans. >> reporter: frustration today between senators and the intelligence community, starting with how nsa leaker edward snowden was eve
revelations over the scope of nsa surveillance programs. new suggestions that that snooping was worse than it was even thought. >>> more leaked documents show thousands of privacy violations every year. and good morning, everyone. we welcome you to the brand new hour here in america's news headquarters. i'm jamie colby. i'm eric shawn. new evidence coming after repeated assurances from the administration that the nsa never overstepped it' its privay bounds. lawmakers weighing in over whether enough is being done to protect americans' privacy. elizabeth prann live in washington with the latest. good morning, elizabeth. >> reporter: good morning, eric. while the nsa sought to defend its operations, americans learned this week they violated privacy rules on thousands of occasions, whether it was the result of mo monitoring incorret phone calls to the mishandling of telephone data housed in an nsa database. an internal awe its foun audit a housed records five years past their conspiracy day expiration. senator rand paul said the program could be improved and perhaps they need to get the suprem
with tattoos, people without tattoos. >> we did notice that -- anyway, railing against nsa surveillance, he spoke out against lindsey graham with some help from the crowd. >> one of the senators, and we won't name any names, who's republican, from a state just south of north carolina -- he said that he didn't care if we censored all of the mail. that's scary. that's pretty scary. >> well, it's not just graham who's watching his back from this part of the party. today on capitol hill, conservative groups including the tea party patriots, the club for growth, heritage action and citizens united are holding an event demanding for a vote to defund obama care. called a litmus test for all republicans. >> those of us who are republican, those of us who claim to be against obama care, who happen to vote to fund it, will have a lot to pay, will have a lot to answer for, with our constituents. >> another group that will be at today's capitol hill event, for america. they're up with a video that singles out republican leader mitch mcconnell, calling him a chicken for not joining those republican forc
allows the nsa analysts to collect nearly everything a user does on the internet. that includes personal e-mails, on line chats, web searches and social media activity like facebook chats and private messages. and according to training materials, slides released today. it seems that all an analyst needs to get started is a personal e-mail address or ip address. the guardian x key score collects so much information, though, it can only be stored for three to five days. one nsa report from 2007 estimated that there were 850 billion call events collected. and stored in the nsa data bases. and close to 150 billion internet records, each day. the document says one to two billion records were added according to the guardian. today, the white house said that not all of the information in the guardian piece today is true. >> the intelligence community has explained allegations of widespread unchecked access to information are false. access to tools is limited to only personnel who are required access for their assigned tasks. and there are multiple supervisory checks for those in the system who
beginning 9:00 a.m. eastern. >>> nsa's top secret surveillance programs under fire. president obama and a bipartisan group of lawmakers are going to hold a closed door meeting at the white house to discuss privacy as another edward snowden bomb shell is dropped detailing how much the intelligence agency is spying or could be spying on your internet activities. barbara starr with more on this. new revelations. how is the administration responding to it this time? >> this meeting at the white house may be a sign that the administration is willing to change the program but is not going to give up on it. the obama administration under attack for its surveillance programs. national security agency director keith alexander heckled. >> i haven't lied to congress. >> reporter: while congress questions is the nsa spying on us. who is accountable for edward snowden's leaks? >> anyone asked to resign or offered to resign? >> no one. >> reporter: the administration declassified more documents in an effort to show the surveillance is vital to national security. even as a new article unveiled mor
to the surveillance of the nsa, rand paul is tapping some public sentiment, not just on the left. we had a voted in congress and republican congressman in michigan that almost gutted the collection of meta data. it failed but very close. is dorothy right about the politics? >> i really would like to think that dorothy is right about this and also chris christie is right. i worry that 9/11 and all of that is becoming a new york-new jersey, connecticut thing. those that experienced that day and it's essentially receding out in part to the country to something of an distraction because the united states has been lucky, unlike capitals in europe not to experience another terrorist event. i think, unfortunately, there may be reservoir of political support that could get behind what rand paul is saying. >> paul: how serious a risk is this within the republican party? >> to be clear, risk, we can say this is a win-win for rand paul and chris christie. they get to define themselves as spokesmen as two sides of party. why is the governor of new jersey engaging the senator or junior of kentucky. it's all
for the nsa after the washington post reported this week that the agency violated policy rules. >> nation's most secretive spy agency intercepted e-mails and calls during that time and did not report the unauthorized surveillance. joining us with reaction is senator rand paul. senator, welcome back to fox news sunday. good to be with you. >> good morning. >> it was a little more than a week ago that the president insisted to the american people that there was oversight of the program and there was no talk of abuses. >> what you are not reading about is, the government actually abusing these programs. and listening in on people's phone calls or reading people's e-mails. what you are hearing about is the prospect that these could be abused. >> senator paul, what do you make of that statement now that this new information has come to light? >> you know, i think that the president missunderstands the constitutional powers. the checks and balances come from independent branchs of government. if they tell him everything is okay, that the nsa can police themselves. one of the things that our fou
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but i will follow you home, i haveny own nsa system. >> doubling minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour and fast, unions working with them, planning for strikes for higher wages beginning next week, fast-food is focus, but just ask walt, if walmart, if you are a big company you have to pay it to or eat it. walmart saying no in washington tc, walmart said it could not affordn stick around, it took a hike. the $15 thing comes to pass, walmart will not belowly one getting out. he said this much bigger than burger joins. ed it is getting to be sort of like a national cause celeb, one goosed by a mean stream media that is not good at math. >> i have seen this cycle over the years. one thing you need to know about minimum wage, it was designed for entry level jobs to teach peoplesoft work skills. it was never meant to be a career. it is men to be a career starter. this campaign going on right now, is driven in my thoughts by the parties the political parties particularly democrats. because all about union dues, not about the minimum wage. just stop and think about how inflationary it is, this
, because more and more members of congress are concerned over the extent of nsa's spying on us, as we vealed by edward snowden, president obama convened a meeting of republicans to discuss how we can get the proper balance between national security and our right of privacy. and you can look for some legislation which will restrict nsa's spying. we'll tell you all about it right here on current tv. iq will go way up. (vo) current tv gets the conversation started weekdays at 9 eastern. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. (vo) sharp tongue. >>excuse me? (vo) quick wit. >> and yes, president obama does smell like cookies and freedom. (vo) and above all, opinion and attitude. >> really?! this is the kind of stuff they say about something they just pulled freshly from their [bleep]. >> you know what those people are like. >> what could possibly go wrong in eight years of george bush? >> my producer just coughed up a hairball. >>sorry. >>ju
in which he blamed his addiction, blamed the fbi, blamed just about everybody except himself. plus, the nsa leaker and fugitive ed snowden walking free in russia, after more than a month holds up in an airport there. now some u.s. lawmakeres are calling roche's move, quote, a slap in the face. >> we are awaiting a bombshell that could rock major league baseball. officials set to hand down punishment in the steroid scandal and it could be big trouble for a-rod, the highest paid player in the history of the game, all of that straight ahead unless breaking news changes everything. >>> first from fox at 3:00. there was harmony in the house where he held three women captive in chains for more than a decade, and the sex he had with them was mostly consentual. those incredible claims from ariel castro in court today as he faced one of the three survivors of his abuse who told him his time in hell is just beginning. all of that before big sentenced to life in prison no life of parole. and today relatives of the victims telling the court how those women are greg stronger each day, and then the third
obama appears to be feeling the heat from the nsa leaker edward snowden's revelations about what the intelligence knows about your e-mail, telephone access. the president outlined a four-point plan to reform intelligence gathering, especially as it touches american citizens. >> first, i will work with congress to pursue appropriate reforms to section 215 of the patriot act. the program that collects telephone records. second, i'll work with congress to improve the public's confidence in the oversight conducted by the foreign intelligence surveillance court. so specifically, we can take steps to make sure civil liberties and the government's position is challenged by an adversary. number three, we can and must be more transparent. so i've directed the intelligence community to make public as much information about these programs as possible. fourth, reforming a high-level group of outside experts to review our entire intelligence and communications technologies. we need new thinking for a new era. >> as for the times of all of this, the president says the review process began befo
of the problems with the nsa's talking points is that the nsa has, for a very long time, used word games, when it describes authorities publicly. those word games are based upon very strange and unordinary definitions the nsa assigned to some of the words that they use to defend their programs. >> in the "wall street journal's" report, the nsa does defend its practices. a spokeswoman says it's a very legal and respectful of americans' privacy. i she writes if americans communications are inadvertently collected during the process they use minimization procedures approved by the attorney general and used to protect the privacy of united states persons. you learned last week we did learn the nsa breached privacy rules and overstepped its authority thousands of times. >> new revelations. >> i wouldn't be surprised if people weren't watching us right now. >> i don't think anybody's watching. well, let's see, until sinbad gets out here who's in this building. >>> did you know a-rod was suspended by baseball for 211 games and said i'm lawyering up and by the time the appeal happens the season will b
you are on all of those nsa stuff. this is what's going to happen. all of our conspiracy theory friends are going to say i deliberately waited to do all of the stuff when jim wasn't here. and my story is that he's having a colonoscopy. not here to defend himself. no, we've been getting into -- what would you call it, chris, a spirited debate. >> yes. >> stephanie: about the nsa stuff and snowden, hero, traitor, blah, blah, blah. anyway, paul in houston writes steph, listening to jim ward talk about the nsa makes me want to pull my eyelashes out. this is the same guy who says the founders couldn't have imagined assault weapons when writing the second amendment. paul in houston. [ applause ] i just -- i just think -- and again, you can fill in for jim and say i'm an idiot. but it is a tough balance between security and privacy. you can't have 100%. i don't think of either. >> are there ways to give up less of your -- i don't want to say freedom but when you engage in facebook and twitter, you are engaging in perhaps an arena that might allow you to be spied on more so that you do
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the degree to which the nsa is monitoring the content of american communications. it is a development that the paper's editorial board asserted shs a common sense understanding of the fourth amendment. we have chuck todd host of "the daily rundown" i go to you first as our man at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. the fact the white house is having a press conference on an august friday at 3:00 p.m., are we to believe they are excited to get the message out to the media? >> no. i think this is more of a traditional before he's gone on vacation. he's done this before. end of the summer deal. it's one of those things they know they are long overdo on a press conference in that respect. there is a lot of unanswered questions. you brought up that "new york times" sotory yesterday on nsa. this has done more damage to the president and his brand with supporters of his, it's the issue of surveillance and surveillance state, the struggles that he's had to deal with looking at an impact with china and all that. more than any of the other stories, this has been the one that is the most politically damag
. tonight, we're keeping him honest and digging into republican claims he's letting an nsa leaker, edward snowden, force his hand. >>> later, amazing rescues in a flood zone. you'll meet the parents of this baby. >>> two big developments that's correct lead authorities to alleged killer james dimaggio and 16-year-old hannah anderson. his car has been found in idaho, far from san diego from he allegedly killed hanna's mother and possibly her brother ethan, as well. >> the blue nissan versa was discovered covered in blush, the plates had been removed. but law enforcement were able to confirm that the vehicle did belong to dimaggio. >> that's one key development. the other perhaps even bigger. word that hannah anderson and james dimaggio may have been spotted as he's been doing from the very start. oliver camden is joining us now with the very latest. paul, what are you hearing? >> reporter: wolf, sources saying a single rider on a horseback, possibly other riders, spotted hannah anderson around mr. anderson in the idaho back country. they say the car was at a trailhead and the couple would
that obama surprise visits on capitol hill with the head of the nsa said it canceled the committee meeting with obama and would probably never will get that investigated. thank you. albuquerque, new mexico. . weler: we do not, president, have an entertainer. he is on the airplane all the time. when he was first elected he told the country then the republican sen -- can sit on the back of the bus, we won. i would like to see him work with not only the democrats but republicans. person,am a hispanic and they better be careful, because all they're doing is using us. want us to vote for him, and then he takes us and the behind. behind. us in the i am so disgusted. i am 75-years-old. i have never seen my country being run up like this. kids cannot find jobs. people -- men cannot support their wives and children any more. he is advocating food stamps and welfare. instead of doing that, why doesn't he put on his boots, tighten his pants, and work with everyone, not just the democrats, but everybody, black, white, hispanic -- whatever. what difference does it make what your race is? we are all ame
latest on the nsa leaker and his life ahead. >> hi, there, mara. edward snowden has, it would appear, settled into his new russian life as quietly as he spent most of his almost six weeks ined is that transit zone inside moscow's airport. so quiet, in fact, that some paparazzi and journalists who were apparently stalking him all that time are calling it anticlimatic. the only information we're actually getting about snowden is coming from his lawyer anatoly kucherena. he found a place to stay, an undisclosed location in moscow. he is keen to learn the russian language and culture and looking, according to kucherena, for a job as a human rights activist. he's also giving up, apparently, on the idea of seeking asylum in any latin american country. that means that he's probably taking the advice of his father, lonnie snowden who told me in an interview we did on thursday from washington, d.c., that if he were his son, he would stay here in russia and make a life of it because it's a strong country, he said, that could resist extreme u.s. pressure to actually to hand his son over to face
, if we're getting these constant reports out of the nsa that it went beyond just collecting over 115 million american phone records, to the latest news that is was every e-mail, every site folks went on so much information, so fast, they really couldn't even hold it that long because it was too massive to hold. that does raise the kind of concerns that senator paul has had, that chris christie seems to dismiss. >> but first of all, of course, we always need to be reviewing the scope of what the government is doing and whether it's justified, and that should be constant he reviewed. the problem is that the tactics the government uses to gather intelligence, the more public it is, eeasier for enemies to esaid it. so it's difficult to have an open debate. and there's so much misinformation in the press. i wouldn't dismiss these concerns offhand. if you're back home and you all of a sudden realize the government has the capable and is gathering information on every phone call made in america, you're concerned how that could be used not just by the government but by individuals working fo
the republicans are going to have a debate here about the role of government, both at home and abroad. the nsa spying, the surveillance, has that dpoen too far and are we getting involved in too many wars. >> before you get to that, you're seeing this what appeared to be just a personality conflict here and name calling. you heard chris christie say i'm not calling any names, but you heard it from the various sound bites from rand paul, so that p upstages any issues that would be the discuss, wouldn't you think is this. >> christie threw down the gauntlet first saying libertari libertarianism was a bad idea and christie of course has this reputation for tough talk and i guess paul has shown he's not going to back down from that, but i think they will move away from the personal jabs and we need to have a debate on the role of government, how far do we go in surveillance and spying and those sorts of things and we haven't had that debate. >> somehow, it seems people will have to get on track if that has to be the mantra. so how do you get to that point if there becomes this fighting of persona
, to me, that's a big tummy rub for the nsa program. >> stephanie: i know. but then i can't help when i hear people that i trust whethe% it is al franken or dianne feinstein, if we get hit again because of that tool, rand paul, say good-bye to all of our civil liberties. and i include glen greenwald in that jack a lope. jim, you're sometimes on the side of this, i understand. that's the piece i was thinking. i think it might have been tomasky. talking about this. that's what he really fears is that if we get hit again, forget any of our civil liberties. that's why i think there has to be a balance between, you know, this nsa stuff and security. and i know i will get more letters calling me a neocon. jim, you have to believe there are terrorists throughout that want to kill us. >> sure. >> stephanie: little disconcerting there are the prison breaks, al-qaeda people everywhere and anniversary of 9-11 is coming up this sunday. the end of ramadan. i think there is a reason. >> a month from sunday. >> stephanie: right. there was some reason they thought yesterday might have been a target. it
it's used by even nsa. but oracle is an legal battle with google accusing the search giant of using its language without its permission. i sat down with >> you know larry and sergey you have trouble with? >> larry specifically. >> larry -- i think -- >> larry per se. >> larry per se >> why? >> because he makes the decisions over there. he runs that company. no one else runs that company. and they decided -- let me be very clear. when you write a program, you write it. you use the oracle oracle/java tools for everything. up press a button and say convert this to android format. we don't compete with google. we just took our stock. that's a completely separate issue. >> but think they're evil. >> i think what they did was absolutely --. >> and you blame larry page. >> so larry page is evil -- that makes larry page evil? >> no i know his slogan is don't be evil. i think he slipped up this one time. >> he's a good time except for this one time when he -- >> this really bothers me. i don't see how he thinks you can just copy someone else's stuff. >> let's talk about stev
database which is different than they nsa record and that pass them along to agents in the field. while this is perfectly acceptable, probably acceptable, to pass along the tips, what happens next raises questions. the agency has been instructed to create something called parallel construction. that is once they make a case, they act as if they never got the information. they might get a tip that a drug dealer will be in a certain place at a certain time. when an agent will follow a car and, they will make a pre textual traffic stop. they will find drugs inside but the only reason they need to follow the car is from the tip. the agents and the police and the field must recreate their investigative reports. they are supposed to leave out any trace that they got this tip from special operations. the problem with that say some critics is that that means the defendant will not have access to certain information that is part of their constitutional right to a fair trial. host: when it comes up in court, how is it explained by the agents? guest: the agent might be asked how this investigation
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